The letter is addressed to […] If I had to guess I would say that we will experience something like the Nephites and Lamanites did where they were all converted at the sign of Jesus' birth because the evidence was so great. In 41 BC, the Romans under Mark Antonytried to occupy Palmyra but failed as the Palmyrans had received intelligence of their approach. MADRID -- In Spain to dedicate the 56th operating temple for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, President Gordon B. Hinckley paid a visit to King Juan Carlos and Queen Sofia at the royal palace Thursday. They also had Jubilee years, which were every 50 years, which are 7 x 7 = 49, and then the next year was the year of Jubilee (, October 1998 - President Gordon B. Hinckley - “, After reciting the story of the seven years of feast and famine found in, “Now, brethren, I want to make it very clear that I am not prophesying, that I am not predicting years of famine in the future. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Do NOT deduce this - it NEVER works when people try this.). Where do you stand and why (scriptural and leadership links would be welcome)? Are we certain that's a Joseph Smith thing though, I could swear that I've also read or heard about it from other religious commentary on the second coming and such. Think back on the 7 years of feast (2001-2008) and the 7 years of famine (2008-2015), and we will continue with the next 7 year period from there. Palmyra's rebel tribal queen Zenobia led a revolt against the Romans and by the end of 271 AD, she had conquered territory including Egypt and parts of modern-day Turkey. While only about 1,200 members attended the dedicatory sessions within the temple itself nearly 1.5 million members took part through media broadcasts throughout the United States and Canada. ", - Wendy Watson Nelson, An Evening with President Russell M. Nelson Worldwide Devotional for Young Adults • January 10, 2016 • Brigham Young University–Hawaii, You're right. I also realize people are at different levels of readiness for this information but again, there are people studying and paying attention and noticing the subtle warnings Church leaders have and are giving. Continuing with the 7 year cycles, the only other 7 year period mentioned in the scriptures is the 7 Years of Tribulation found in Rev 13, indicating that perhaps Sept 2015-2022 will be the 7 years of tribulation. Perhaps this sealing included the record setting 34 Temples were dedicated in the year 2000 alone. My guess is that this is a preparatory period for us to get done whatever we need to get done. I would love to see the new updated information since the last post and perhaps more pictures too. My opinion is based off of the number of very dramatic signs of the times which have not yet been fulfilled, as well as the fact that the world appears to me to have actually gotten (as a net whole) better and not worse from 1990 through 2010 (though this is just my opinion from my vantage point and may now be reversing). This photo is to illustrate the 7 year cycle, no massive crash happened in 2015. However, if one does the math it also indicates that if we are using a LITERAL translation that would mean we have to wait around 41 2/3 years before the actual second coming in that regards...though in truth the half hour of silence could be symbolic. Palmyra (/ ˌ p æ l ˈ m aɪ r ə /; Palmyrene: Tadmor; Arabic: تَدْمُر Tadmur) is an ancient Semitic city in present-day Homs Governorate, Syria.Archaeological finds date back to the Neolithic period, and documents first mention the city in the early second millennium BC. significant. I"ll keep this person anonymous but there are people who've studied this quite a bit and say that Pres. And immediately after, in Rev 8:1 the 7th seal was opened, and the space of 'half an hour' (or 20.83 years in the Lords time) began. The thoughts have stemmed more around the second coming rather than signs of the 7th seal; however, I am good with both and the thoughts that have been shared. But that's what He wants, a world full of people who have made an educated decision on where they stand. Dedication: 6 April 2000 by Gordon B. Hinckley Site: 5 acres. There are different stages to the Second Coming. I will also be the first to admit I am probably a little too far the other direction. Now, I leave it to you to make the connection to being prepared. Again warned of 7 years of feast and famine: “Let us never lose sight of the dream of Pharaoh concerning the fat cattle and the lean, the full ears of corn, and the blasted ears; the meaning of which was interpreted by Joseph to indicate years of plenty and years of scarcity (see, Sept 2008 (7 years after Sept 2001) - Began the 7 Years of Famine (The Great Recession). Interestingly enough, this is the same day that the ancient walls of Jerusalem were breached, and the sacred city defiled. The sacred calendar’s new year started in the spring with new life, the civil calendar started with the harvest in the fall. I think this is far more likely to occur than living to see the second coming at this point. It says that members from all nations, tongues, people would be in attendance. Written by Richard Genck, Jodie Flesher Stoddard, and Susan Egli Goddard. By the time the dedication began, large patches of blue reclaimed the sky. I get that but when the wife of the president of the quorum of the 12 is saying this at a worldwide devotional, it should get people's attention: "So, now a question as I conclude: What if you learned that the Savior had already returned to this earth—that He, as part of His Second Coming, had already met with some of His true followers in several marvelous, large gatherings13—gatherings about which the world, including CNN and the blogosphere, knew nothing. Hmm, a few things here. Postulation would indicate that this is a period where nothing is really heard from above...which could be interesting in regards to LDS modern thoughts on the matter. In fact, some are. entstand der Schrein, das eigentliche Heiligtum. As I understand it the first will be at Adam-ondi-Ahman to designated Church leaders. But I'm not sure that is the same day.as when the seventh seal begins. The Palmyra temple was dedicated on April 6, 2000, exactly 170 years after The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was formally organized in Fayette, New York, (about 30 miles from Palmyra) on April 6, 1830. But I am, that the time has come to get our houses in order. 32 v. Chr. In 1907 Apostle George Albert Smith purchased a portion of the original Smith farm for $16,000. Sign up for a new account in our community. You may want to check out nofearpreps.com for more info. The Israelite years were reckoned like their weeks. Sep 12, 2020 | Last days. Jubilee cycle since Joshua led Israel across the River Jordan. So the silence would seem to be a period of time at the beginning of the seventh seal before the trumpets sound and the destruction begins. President Monson gave a curious talk about chicken farming, fire, and smoke, and asking if we are prepared. During the noon-time visit, President Hinckley presented a Lladro figurine, "Christus," to the royal couple. This is the anniversary of the organization of Thy restored Church. This calendar continues to be in effect 6,000 years after the creation of the world. Again, same day: Elule 29 (Sept 29), God wiped out 7% of our wealth. Ordinance Rooms: Two ordinance rooms (two-stage progressive) and two sealing. The 7th seal is the one at the front with his mouth open. By It has been cross-posted with permission.] You will also need to know that the, is the constellations that God gave to His people, which were taken by other nations and corrupted. To me this makes a lot of sense. In fact - President Hinckley used half of those exact words in the dedicatory prayer and the other words were inferred. Trust me. If every 1000 years is a seal, and every 1000 years is a day, Adam was created about 4000 BC and 2000 AD is 6 days and the beginning of the 7th day. I'm torn over whether the half hour means a set period of time like the 20.833 years or if it just means a relatively short period of time. Below is a more detailed explanation than what you can see in the graphic. The story starts years before, perhaps years before anyone thought to build a temple here. It's easy! No clothing rental available at the Palmyra Temple. Sept 2015- Sept 2016 will be a Super Jubilee year, As Israel follows God, they are blessed. This was the first day of the 7 year cycle. The one problem with the half hour of silence is that there is no definitive event to let us know when it has begun, unless the Prophet reveals it I guess. We have had our time to prepare, there is no room for fence sitters any more. Der Tempel war eines der wichtigsten religiösen Bauwerke im ersten Jahrhundert nach Christus im Nahen Osten. All we know of the date is that it is on 'HIS DAY'. The economy is a fragile thing. In Revelations 8 John the Revelator starts off by saying that the seventh seal is opened with a half hour of silence. The site for the Palmyra New York Temple, atop a wooded hill in pastoral western New York, is in an area prominent in the early history of the Latter Day Saint movement.Nearby is the grove of trees known as the Sacred Grove in which the founder and first … Palmyra was the first (of only two temple dedications) that were televised world wide. The secret combinations are allowing two corrupt insiders to battle for power, trying to see which one can get away with more, this election cycle has left American Christians with no moral option outside a 3rd party candidate. And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. tribulation? If the seal opened Jan 1 or April 6 2000, either way “about half an hour” is around 2021-2022, which is 7 years of feast, 7 years of famine, 7 years of…. What I also found interesting was that President Hinckley in London in 1987 was interviewed for the Church News and asked why 'the church's lease on Hyde Park Chapel runs out in 2036 and the church has no provisions to renew the lease of the most expensive piece of real estate the church is holding?' Could be a while. article. The cows can be found here. Every breath I take resets it. If we watch and see these, we will then know almost the exact day because we know how long they will approximately lie in the street and then they'll be raised and the Second Coming will be at hand as Jerusalem is overrun (I think that's how it's written). He then factored in the prophecy that Christ would come at the end of the 4,000 years and then there'd be 2,000 years before the beginning of the seventh... now, if you work it all out -and I can't show you his math because I don't have it here with me- it places the beginning of the 7,000 at the year 2027-2028. The temple in Jerusalem could be rebuilt in the next year, which is a major fulfillment of prophecy for the Coming of Christ. Yeah, the clock metaphor is obviously an imprecise measurement, I know. But I am certainly always open to listening to various Mormon perspectives on the Second Coming. I'm not an expert or here to convince anyone of anything. Many falsely assume that the 7th Seal is opened when Christ comes, and starts the Millennium, however, careful reading of the Revelations of John show that this is not the case. Likely more would have been similar with a better translation of that chapter from the original Greek. No one knows the day or hour but by paying attention to the signs (which we're supposed to do), you can figure out the season. This could mean the return of the Temple Mound or the return of the Saints to our Zion in Missouri happens in 2015-2016!! The people could chose to be righteous, and follow the laws; or God would do the collapse for them, and open their gates by the swords of other nations. ; ). One hundred and seventy years ago it was established in nearby Fayette. In Revelations 8:1, the Seventh Seal is opened immediately thereafter. The opening of the 7th Seal sounds like a temple dedication. Not possible in our day if not for technology which allowed ALL worthy members to watch as Palmyra was the first (of only two temple dedications) that were televised world wide. 21 October 2020. This section connects the ancient 7 year cycles of God's calendar, with the words of His prophets, and real world events. Question Gramps, I keep hearing the Palmyra Temple dedication was the opening of the 7th seal and that the Church website confirms we are in the 7th seal. The opening of the 7th Seal sounds like a temple dedication. This 7th year was called a Shemitah (Sabbath year). I'm not an expert or here to convince anyone of anything. Of interest, no man knows the hour or day, but we have some really clear indicators from Revelations and other books. This time we didn’t recover, which sent us into the Great Recession. Our Beloved Father in Heaven, Thou great Elohim, on this historic day we come unto Thee in solemn prayer. The people will be fleeing and the Lord will appear as their Savior, they'll ask about the wounds in his hands and feet and then after he answers, I believe they carry him to the temple. The site for the Palmyra New York Temple, atop a wooded hill in pastoral western New York, holds a special place in the hearts of members of the Mormon Church. He sent us warning from the prophets, and called America to repentance, much like He did with Israel in Isaiah 9:10. that the stocks opened (Sept 17), the day before the Hebrew New Year started (. Since 1000 years on earth is one day to God, then 1 hour is 42 years, and half an hour is 21 years. The sun will be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord. I'm no expert but Matthew 24:36 comes to mind. These events are not necessarily close together though. EDITOR'S NOTE: Go to Additional information for links to photos, a video tour, history of Palmyra, facts about the Palmyra temple and other news stories on the temple.. PALMYRA, N.Y. — Calling the events that happened 180 years ago in a grove of trees here unique in the history of the world, President Gordon B. Hinckley dedicated the new Palmyra New York Temple Thursday. And how many years does this take to spread the gospel to all the people in these nations? Verse 12 begins and ends with AMEN and there is no doubt this is the description of the dedicatory prayer. I have read other comments where people are sharing that the 7th seal has already opened. Yet, as President Gordon B. Hinckley entered the Palmyra New York Temple on April 6, 2000, an hour before the dedication was to begin, the rains ceased and the clouds began to lift. The day-long ceremony included speeches, music, the administration of the sacrament, a dedicatory prayer, and the Hosanna Shout. Hinckley indicated the seal opened at the dedication of the Palmyra Temple: April 6, 2000 was the prophesied temple dedication from Revelations 7 & Joel 1 where all members would attend. For those waiting to see everything happen before they think it'll be time, I invite you to consider the possibility that events can happen concurrently. Anddenex, November 17, 2017 in LDS Gospel Discussion. Every 7 Shemitahs (7x7 years= 49 years) the 50th year is a Jubilee year. It is also for those children that will be sealed to their parents. Oh, and I forgot to mention there's a revelation from Joseph Smith relating to Matt 24 where we are told that the Lord returns in a year without rainbows globally- it's not that the symbol of the promise (the rainbow itself) is removed but the scripture points to there being no rain as it's a time of global famine. I suspect that the seven seals may be counted with a "little season" called the "meridian of time" between the 4th and 5th seal. This sign is especially wonderful. The Palmyra Temple is the only LDS temple with a transparent window located in the waiting rooms. To recap the important events that happened in 2015: 4 Blood moons and 2 Solar Eclipses (6 total major heavenly signs in a single year), End of 70th Jubilee cycle, beginning of "a new era" according to the Jews (this is. When I originally wrote this, I predicted that the Supreme Court would rule against the sanctity of marriage. There is clothing for children and youth that are being sealed. However I have been unable to find it on the Church website. The world has gone crazy, many people already joke about future generations pretending 2016 didn't exist. In short, the story is about how, as a boy, President Monson (then Tommy) was doing service on a Church chicken farm, picking weeds. A common theme throughout the words of Christ in every section of canonized scripture are the signs of the advent of Christ. In the year 2000, the Hebrew sacred calendar shows the New Year as April 6, 2000. ", Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, Third Hour Forum Rules - Please be familiar with these rules before posting, https://www.amazon.com/Second-Coming-Jesus-Christ-ebook/dp/B0046RELBC/ref=la_B0049HJZ6A_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1511036786&sr=1-1. that Israel was returned to their land, whether by the the first time with Joshua when they sacked Jericho, or the Babylonians, or the winning Jerusalem from the Muslims in the 6 Day War, it always happened on a Jubilee year. Situated on an elevated ridge just beyond the Sacred Grove where God the Father and Jesus Christ appeared to Joseph Smith in the spring of 1820, the Palmyra New York Temple—a House of the Lord—stands as a testimony to that singular event. June 26, 2015, that event. We know that there will be temple built (which I'm still waiting for) and that two prophets will be sent to the Jews who will be there for around 1000 days...and then they will be slain. Coordinates The Palmyra New York Temple is the 77th operating temple of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church. It could be that individuals can receive revelation but no one actually hears directly or is visited directly??? Paul in 1 Thessalonians 5:9 says, “For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.” This is the blessed hope, that the church will be raptured and then the pouring out of God’s Wrath in the Trumpets and Bowls commences. He promises that there will be "wonders in the heavens, and signs on the earth below.". Vs. 10, it is talking about the Hosanna Shout. How would that be possible? The temple, consecrated to the Mesopotamian god Bel, worshipped at Palmyra in triad with the lunar god Aglibol and the sun god Yarhibol, formed the center of religious life in Palmyra and was dedicated in 32 AD. However, God gave us the 7 years to repent, and for the righteous to heed the warnings of the prophet to gather for the time of famine. My point is that the official Second Coming may actually be quite a ways off but that doesn't mean some very interesting events aren't getting very near. And immediately after, in Rev 8:1 the 7th seal was opened, and the space of 'half an hour' (or 20.83 years in the Lords time) began. One of my friends who is a lawyer for the church worked out the Roman Calendar days (there were only 350 days in the Roman calendar so every decade the seasons were reversed in Rome) and the year the globe ceased using the Roman Calendar. See the. [FairMormon has received several questions about this recently, so we were pleased to see Interpreter publish this essay by Christopher J. Blythe. Members at the dedication claim to have been told by attending General Authorities that this moment marked the opening of the 7th Seal. To call America to repent, He wiped out some of our wealth when the DOW dropped 7%. 70 comes up multiple times in the scriptures, such as the 70 years Babylon had Israel in captivity before they were returned. In figuring the timeline for Rev 8:1 “about the space of half an hour”, this would equal just over 20 ½ years. April 6, 2000 is believed to be the Savior’s 2000th birthday, as well as the day of His resurrection, but it is definitely the the 170th anniversary of the restoration of the church, and the day that the Last Supper occurred. The 7th seal contains the trumpet and bowl judgments which are the wrath of God poured out on an unrepentant world. Also anonymous but something to consider: The signs are happening in such rapid succession, there can be no doubt we are in the last few years. So from the above, I (actually) did the math and we can deduce that Christ will return on February 3, 2021! If John had used a proper pen instead of a fountain pen we would have had more of the gospel and Revelations would not be so hard to understand. No one in their right mind can doubt that this scripture is being fulfilled at this time, the only time in 7,000 years that is will be fulfilled so perfectly since the creation of the earth. wurde der Außenraum errichtet, mit Opferaltar und Wasserbecken. Growing up in Texas, where all of the protestant fundies are always setting (and missing) dates for the end of the world (Y2K, Harold Camping, and December 23, 2012 all caused moderate instances of hysteria and/or panic in these parts) can cause you to become a little callous to the whole thing. September 17, 2001 (Elul 29 in the Hebrew Calendar) Began the 7 Years of Feast. Maybe. Who is represented by the laborers, who are the chickens, and what is the fire? What I don't get though is that in one of the recent firesides, the congregation were told 'the clock's hand had moved' and it was "only one minute until midnight". I am interested to understand people's perspective, knowledge, regarding the opening of the 7th seal. The Palmyra Temple was the 77th temple to be dedicated. From that small beginning it has spread over the earth, and our hearts are filled with gratitude … Known from ancient literary records—including Assyrian texts and the Hebrew Bible—Palmyra today is known as a unique and resplendent ruined city that preserves remark… The Temple of Bel, also known as the Temple of Baal, was an ancient temple located in Palmyra, Syria. Waiting Room. They are massive celebrations, and something significant is that for this year all land will go back to the original owner. Well, after the seventh seal opens I believe there is supposed to be 30 minutes of silence from heaven. By the way, with that video, ignore the rapture part at the end, and any mention of aliens. The name Baalshamin is applied to various divinities at different periods in time, but most often to Hadad, also known simply as Ba’al. The young men burned the weeds, but did so. Oct 2005 - President Gordon B. Hinckley - “. This is significant since 7 x 3=21, and both of those numbers are clearly significant. China greatly devalued its currency which sent shock waves around the global economy. Congress didn’t pass the Bush Bailout, which is attributed as being the cause of the crash. PR] Like Liked by 2 people. ). When reading Revelations 7, it describes Elias restraining the destroying angels from pouring out the Tribulations until the saints can be sealed. Palms in their hands -- members used white hankies to wave for the Hosanna Shout. I also realize people are at different levels of readiness for this information but again, there are people studying and paying attention and noticing the subtle clues Church leaders have and are giving. "So, now a question as I conclude: What if you learned that the Savior had already returned to this earth—that He, as part of His Second Coming, had already met with some of His true followers in several marvelous, large gatherings, —gatherings about which the world, including CNN and the blogosphere, knew nothing. PALMYRA, NY — The Palmyra New York Temple dedication celebrated the 170th anniversary of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He then worked out the leap years and a few other miracles where the sun/moon were stopped. Either way, silence for heaven for "about half an hour," if one day to God is 1,000 years to man, comes out to be about 21 years. He invited people to help him seal … If you found out that the Savior was already on the earth, what would you desperately want to do today, and what would you be willing and ready to do tomorrow? Abstract: In this essay, I examine a letter written by Elder Vaughn J. Featherstone in 1983 and deposited in the cornerstone of the Atlanta Georgia Temple. [The April 6th reference is incorrect, but I do not have permission to give the date of the opening of the seventh seal. Growing up in Texas, where all of the protestant fundies are always setting (and missing) dates for the end of the world (Y2K, Harold Camping, and December 23, 2012 all caused moderate instances of hysteria and/or panic in these parts) can cause you to become a little callous to the whole thing. Thank you for the thoughtful comments regarding my question. How many people on both sides of the battle are actually converted and then return home to share the gospel in their homelands? And before someone screams "no man shall know the date", a date is a day, not a year. This topic is closely tied to the 7 years of Feast and Famine, however to compartmentalize, this section was broken up. 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